Fact-checked by Grok 2 weeks ago

Many Too Many

"Many Too Many" is a song by the English rock band , written by keyboardist Tony Banks and released in June 1978 as the second single from the band's ninth studio album ...And Then There Were Three.... The album, issued in March 1978, represented a pivotal shift for toward a more concise, pop-oriented style following the departure of guitarist , reducing the lineup to a core trio of Banks, vocalist/drummer , and bassist/guitarist . As a piano-driven augmented by strings, "Many Too Many" features lyrics centered on romantic disillusionment and the cyclical nature of heartbreak, with Banks describing it as having a "simple love lyric." The single peaked at number 43 on the , underperforming compared to the album's "," which reached the top ten. Notably, "Many Too Many" marked the final appearance of the on a album and was never performed live by the band during their touring history.

Background and Development

Album Context

Following the departure of vocalist in 1975 and guitarist in 1977, Genesis transitioned to a core trio lineup consisting of keyboardist Tony Banks, drummer/vocalist , and bassist/guitarist . This marked a significant evolution for the band, which had previously thrived with more elaborate arrangements during its five-piece era. The album ...And Then There Were Three... became their first full-length release as this trio, reflecting the members' determination to continue despite the losses. The album was recorded at Relight Studios in Hilvarenbeek, , from September to October 1977, with the band co-producing alongside longtime collaborator . This venue, previously used for their 1976 effort , offered a modern facility and favorable tax incentives, allowing the to focus on song development during rehearsals following Hackett's departure. With Hackett's exit, Rutherford assumed responsibilities, contributing to a streamlined sound that emphasized concise structures over extended instrumental passages. "...And Then There Were Three..." represented a deliberate shift toward more pop-oriented material, blending remnants of the band's roots with accessible, radio-friendly compositions, set against the rising and movements.

Songwriting

"Many Too Many" was composed solely by Genesis keyboardist Tony Banks during the band's recording sessions in September and October 1977 at Relight Studios in Hilvarenbeek, , for their ninth studio album, ...And Then There Were Three.... As one of five tracks on the album credited entirely to Banks, it emerged amid a period of creative adjustment for the group, now operating as a after the departure of guitarist . In reflecting on the song, Banks characterized its lyrics as a "simple love lyric," a deliberate departure from the intricate, often fantastical narratives that had defined much of his earlier songwriting contributions to Genesis, such as those on albums like and . This straightforward approach aligned with Banks's intent to explore more direct emotional expression, though he later expressed reservations about its simplicity in comparison to his usual style. The composition's core and were developed primarily by Banks, reflecting his keyboard-centric vision for the piece. Following the completion of the basic tracks, encountered uncertainty regarding the song's final arrangement, prompting them to experiment with additional elements to provide closure and dynamics. This led to the inclusion of a solo by bassist , added after the initial recording phase to bridge the verses and chorus more effectively and infuse the track with a layer of rock energy. Rutherford's contribution, while not part of the original blueprint, helped solidify the song's polished form. The track's creation exemplified the album's broader emphasis on accessibility, as Banks noted that the trio format encouraged a simplification of arrangements to maintain momentum without the layered complexities of their five-piece era. This post-Hackett evolution allowed for more concise song structures, positioning "Many Too Many" as a key example of Genesis's pivot toward radio-friendly material while retaining the band's melodic sophistication.

Musical Aspects

Lyrics and Themes

The lyrics of "Many Too Many" center on the theme of overwhelming romantic attachment, portraying a tumultuous love affair characterized by emotional excess and cyclical instability. The narrator grapples with the partner's pattern of elevation followed by rejection, as captured in the opening lines: "Many too many have stood where I stand / Many more will stand here too," which evoke the universality of heartache and the inevitability of such experiences in relationships. This sentiment is reinforced through verses that plead for "something that's wild and something that's free," underscoring a craving for intensity amid the pain of being "built... up then knock[ed]... down again." The chorus amplifies this excess with repetitive cries of wanting "so much more," emphasizing vulnerability and an insatiable desire for connection despite the turmoil. Structured as a straightforward , the song prioritizes emotional directness over narrative complexity, with its verse-pre-chorus-chorus format allowing Phil Collins's vocals to convey raw intimacy without the layered storytelling of epics. This simplicity highlights the narrator's exposed state, focusing on personal longing rather than abstract or fantastical elements. Tony Banks, who received sole writing credit for the track, crafted it as a deliberate shift toward unadorned expression. Banks intended "Many Too Many" as a direct, non-metaphorical , contrasting sharply with Genesis's earlier esoteric from the era, which often delved into mythological or surreal themes. In reflecting on his songwriting, Banks described the track as featuring a "simple lyric," aligning with the band's late- pivot away from elaborate prog structures. This approach connected to broader pop influences in Genesis's sound, as the group on ...And Then There Were Three... embraced more concise, heartfelt expressions to broaden their appeal beyond progressive audiences.

Instrumentation and Arrangement

"Many Too Many" is performed in the key of at a of 121 beats per minute in 4/4 time and runs for 3:31. The showcases the Genesis trio's instrumentation, with Tony Banks on keyboards including , strings blended with string synthesizer for an orchestral texture, and additional synthesizers. contributes lead and backing vocals along with drums, while plays bass, provides rhythmic guitar riffs, and delivers the lead guitar solo with overdubbed harmonies on a second guitar . The arrangement evolved during recording sessions at Relight Studios in the , where basic tracks were laid down first before the band, co-producing with , addressed completion challenges by incorporating Rutherford's guitar overdubs to enhance the structure. This pop-rock ballad features a straightforward, concise format with layered vocal and harmonies building to a climactic , demonstrating the trio's self-sufficiency in delivering polished, accessible compositions without a dedicated lead . The Mellotron's appearance marks its final use on a album track.

Release and Promotion

Single Release

"Many Too Many" was released as a single on 16 June 1978, serving as the second single from Genesis's album ...And Then There Were Three.... The single was issued in the format of a 7-inch vinyl record at 45 RPM. In the United Kingdom, it was released by Charisma Records under catalogue number CB 315, while in the United States, it appeared under Atlantic Records. Some international markets, including the UK, included a picture sleeve with the release. The B-side featured two non-album tracks: "The Day the Light Went Out", written by Tony Banks, and "Vancouver", credited to Phil Collins and Mike Rutherford. Both tracks originated from sessions for ...And Then There Were Three... and were later included on the 2000 compilation album Genesis Archive 2: 1976–1992. Promotion for the single was integrated with Genesis's ongoing And Then There Were Three Tour, which supported the parent album, and it was marketed as a radio-friendly option following the band's recent hit single.

Music Video

The music video for "Many Too Many" was directed by Ken O'Neill in 1978 and produced by Carol Rosenstein and Paul Flattery. It features the band as a —Phil , Tony Banks, and Mike —miming the performance on a simulated concert stage in a studio setting, with dramatic lighting that underscores Collins's dejected expressions and the song's emotional tone. highlighting the reduced lineup's dynamic through close-up shots of Banks at the keyboards and Rutherford playing —a technique rarely used by the band live. Released alongside the single on June 16, 1978, the video was created to enhance television airplay for the track. It has been available on the band's official YouTube channel since September 18, 2014, accumulating over 470,000 views as of November 2025.

Commercial Performance and Reception

Chart Positions

"Many Too Many" experienced modest commercial success following its release as a single in June 1978. In the , the song debuted on the dated July 2, 1978, ultimately peaking at No. 43 and remaining on the chart for five weeks. The single also charted in , entering the on August 28, 1978, where it reached a peak position of No. 41 over a six-week run. It failed to secure a major entry on the US , consistent with Genesis's limited promotional efforts in at the time. By comparison, the album's lead single "" achieved significantly greater success, peaking at No. 7 on the and No. 23 on the .

Critical Reception

Upon its release in 1978, "Many Too Many" received mixed contemporary reviews as part of the album ...And Then There Were Three..., with some enthusiasts viewing it as filler amid the band's shift toward more accessible pop structures, while others appreciated its straightforward emotional delivery and simplicity. Critics noted the song's ballad style as a departure from 's earlier complexity, occasionally dismissing it as unremarkable or overly polished with string-like arrangements. In retrospectives, the track has been praised as a strong romantic exemplifying the trio-era lineup's pop accessibility, highlighted by Mike Rutherford's confident work and Tony Banks's melodic contributions. Reviewers have commended its tender songwriting and chorus, positioning it as an effective showcase of the band's evolving sound post-Hackett and . The song was only mimed once during Genesis's headline set at the on June 24, 1978, for a filmed performance and has never been performed live by the band during their touring history. In terms of legacy, "Many Too Many"—a Tony Banks composition—features prominently in fan discussions as an underrated gem from the album, with no certifications awarded to the single but enduring inclusion on Genesis compilations such as Platinum Collection (2004).

References

  1. [1]
    Happy Anniversary: Genesis, “Many Too Many” | Rhino
    Jun 23, 2016 · Written by Tony Banks, the ballad “Many Too Many”– which was described by its composer as having “a simple love lyric” – was issued as the ...<|control11|><|separator|>
  2. [2]
    Genesis Songs, Albums, Reviews, Bio & More | A... | AllMusic
    Genesis is a seminal British prog band, formed in 1966, known for their ambitious, classical-tinged art rock that became more accessible by the '80s.Genesis · From Genesis to Revelation · Foxtrot · Abacab
  3. [3]
    How Genesis' Fortunes Changed With 'And Then There Were Three'
    Apr 7, 2013 · And Then There Were Three ... , which was released in April 1978. "The idea of trying to keep the songs a little more concise to get more ideas ...
  4. [4]
    Genesis …And Then There Were Three (1978) - Classic Rock Review
    Jun 3, 2021 · And Then There Were Three… was released in the UK on 31 March 1978 and in the US on 28 March on Atlantic Records. It reached on the UK Albums ...
  5. [5]
    Genesis – …And Then There Were Three – 40 years later: A ...
    Mar 29, 2018 · Many Too Many is my favourite song on the album. Quiet piano and synth strings accompany the vocals. Phil drums very gently and Mike gives off ...
  6. [6]
    Genesis - Many, Too Many
    ### Summary of UK and US Single Releases for "Many, Too Many" by Genesis
  7. [7]
    Genesis – Many Too Many Lyrics - Genius
    Many Too Many Lyrics: Many too many have stood where I stand / Many more will stand here too / The thing what I find strange is the way you built me up ...
  8. [8]
    Genesis - Many Too Many Lyrics | AZLyrics.com
    Many too many have stood where I stand. Many more will stand here too. The thing what I find strange is the way you built me up. Then knock me down again
  9. [9]
    The Genesis song Tony Banks thought was too simple
    Mar 9, 2024 · I'd just written a simple love lyric for “Many Too Many”, and I think Mike was keen to try the same thing. Maybe “Follow You Follow Me” was ...
  10. [10]
    Tony Banks of Genesis : Songwriter Interviews - Song Facts
    Jul 28, 2015 · So I kept the lyrics quite simple and the music quite simple, as well. I just wrote what is essentially a "love gone wrong" song, if you'd ...<|control11|><|separator|>
  11. [11]
    ‎...And Then There Were Three... (Remastered) - Album by Genesis
    Listen to ...And Then There Were Three... (Remastered) by Genesis on Apple Music. 1978. 11 Songs. Duration: 53 minutes ... Many Too Many. PREVIEW. 3:31. 8. Scenes ...
  12. [12]
    Genesis - Planet Mellotron Album Reviews
    A: "There's one song on the new album, "Many Too Many" which uses the combined string sound of a Roland string synthesizer and the Mellotron. I still feel that ...
  13. [13]
    Four into three: How Genesis lost a guitarist but set off on a bold new ...
    Sep 1, 2021 · And Then There Were Three… It turned out to be a totally different album to anything Genesis had previously recorded. Banks: “The idea of ...
  14. [14]
    On this day in 1978, Genesis released “Many Too Many ... - Facebook
    Jun 16, 2025 · On this day in 1978, Genesis released “Many Too Many” as the second single from the album “...And Then There Were Three...”. The ballad was penned by Tony Banks.<|separator|>
  15. [15]
    Genesis Many Too Many - Picture Sleeve UK 7" vinyl
    In stock $7.80 deliveryBe the first to know if it's back in stock ; Format - 7" vinyl single (7 inch record / 45) ; Record Label - Charisma ; Catalogue No - CB315 (click link for more)Missing: Atlantic | Show results with:Atlantic
  16. [16]
  17. [17]
    An Illustrated History of A Band called Genesis - Page 5
    Nov 18, 2011 · The followup single was "Many Too Many". Tracks: 1. Many Too Many (3:30) 2. The Day The Light Went Out (3:12) 3. Vancouver (3:01) Total Time ...
  18. [18]
  19. [19]
    Genesis - Many Too Many (1978) - IMVDb
    Jan 6, 2016 · Many Too Many (1978) by Genesis · Credits · Awards · Trivia · Song Details · Technical Details · Video Sources · Social Details.Missing: single | Show results with:single
  20. [20]
    All 32 Genesis Music Videos Ranked Worst to Best
    a rare sight, given that they never played "Many Too Many" live. But this one's ...Missing: details | Show results with:details
  21. [21]
  22. [22]
    Genesis - Facebook
    Jun 16, 2025 · On this day in 1978, Genesis released “Many Too Many” as the second single from the album “...And Then There Were Three...”. The ballad was penned by Tony Banks.
  23. [23]
    Genesis and Solo on Video - DVD
    The other bonus clip is a better-quality version of the "Many Too Many" promo video, with a time code running along the bottom and the message "Nationwide ...Missing: analysis | Show results with:analysis
  24. [24]
    Genesis - Many Too Many (Official Music Video) - YouTube
    Sep 18, 2014 · ... bands. Watch classic Genesis videos right here on the official ... 11 songs · And Then There Were Three (2007 Remaster). Genesis · Album.Missing: facts | Show results with:facts
  25. [25]
    MANY TOO MANY – GENESIS - Official Charts
    Jul 8, 1978 · Latest chart stats about MANY TOO MANY - peak chart position, weeks on chart, catalogue number, week-by-week chart placement and latest ...
  26. [26]
    Suchen nach "Genesis" - Offizielle Charts
    Suchergebnis: ; 20, Genesis Turn It On Again, 05.05.1980 Wochen: 4 Peak: 66 ; 21, Genesis Many, Too Many, 28.08.1978 Wochen: 6 Peak: 41 ; 22, Genesis Follow You ...
  27. [27]
    Song artist 130 - Genesis - tsort.info
    Song artist 130 - Genesis ; 31, Genesis, Many Too Many, 1978, ODK Germany 41 - Aug 1978 (6 weeks), UK 43 - Jul 1978 (5 weeks) ; 32, Genesis, Invisible Touch (Live) ...
  28. [28]
    FOLLOW YOU FOLLOW ME – GENESIS | Official Charts
    Latest chart stats about FOLLOW YOU FOLLOW ME - peak chart position, weeks on chart, catalogue number, week-by-week chart placement and latest news.
  29. [29]
    45 Years Ago: Genesis Crashes Top 40 With 'Follow You Follow Me'
    their highest Billboard placement ever. It's not like the British ...
  30. [30]
    Genesis - John McFerrin's
    Many Too Many is a Banks ballad that borders waaaay too close to syruppy late-70's soft-pop in places, and it doesn't move me anywhere near as much as ...
  31. [31]
    Genesis - ...And Then There Were Three... (album review 3 ...
    Ballad of Big is their first attempt at a simple rocker, which really fails to make an impression, and the equally unremarkable Many Too Many finds itself a ...
  32. [32]
  33. [33]
    And Then There Were Three: Genesis (1978) - Ticket 2 Ride
    Mar 13, 2020 · “Many Too Many” Banks writes a softer, moody song that shows off the gentler vocal style of Collins. The song has punch but dials down the ...
  34. [34]
    From Genesis to Gobal phenomenon - Soul and Sound Progressive
    Jan 12, 2012 · There are moments of impressive songwriting, such as the tender "Many Too Many", the darkly tragic "Duchess" and the epic "One For The Vine ...
  35. [35]
    GENESIS ...And Then There Were Three... reviews - Prog Archives
    Free delivery over $125Studio Album, released in 1978. Songs / Tracks Listing. 1. Down and Out (5:24) 2. Undertow (4:45) 3. Ballad of Big (4:48) 4. Snowbound (4:28)Missing: details | Show results with:details
  36. [36]
    And Then There Were Three..., review by AdamHearst - Prog Archives
    Feb 22, 2009 · 'Undertow', 'Many Too Many', and 'Snowbound' are three beautiful ballads akin to 'Afterglow' and 'Ripples'. Many people dislike the Collins ...