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USS Greer

USS Greer (DD-145) was a Wickes-class destroyer of the United States Navy, named for Rear Admiral James A. Greer (1833–1904), and commissioned on 31 December 1918.^[1]^[2] She served in the interwar period with periods of decommissioning and recommissioning, including reactivation in October 1939 amid rising tensions in Europe.^[3]^[2] The ship achieved prominence through the Greer incident on 4 September 1941, when, en route to deliver mail and passengers to Iceland, she was alerted by a British aircraft to a submerged German U-boat ahead; Greer then established sonar contact with U-652, pursued it, and dropped 19 depth charges over nearly three hours without effect, after which the submarine fired two torpedoes that missed, prompting Greer to drop 11 more depth charges.^[1]^[3] This marked the first combat engagement between U.S. and German naval forces in World War II, with Greer firing the initial shots via depth charges.^[2]^[1] In response, President Franklin D. Roosevelt addressed the nation on 11 September 1941, portraying the submarine's action as unprovoked aggression and authorizing U.S. naval and air forces to "shoot on sight" any German or Italian warships or submarines in waters vital to U.S. security.^[4]^[5] Greer continued convoy escort duties in the Atlantic before transferring to the Pacific in 1945 as an auxiliary vessel (AG-110), where she was decommissioned on 19 July 1945 and later sold for scrap.^[1]^[3]

Design and construction

Specifications and launch

The USS Greer (DD-145), a Wickes-class destroyer, was laid down on 24 February 1918 by the William Cramp & Sons Ship & Engine Building Company in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.^[1] She was launched on 1 August 1918, sponsored by Miss Evelina Porter Gleaves.^[3] The ship was named in honor of Rear Admiral James A. Greer (1833–1904), a United States Navy officer who enlisted in 1848, graduated from the Naval Academy in 1857, and served prominently during the Civil War, including in the siege of Vicksburg and later commands.^[3] Greer was commissioned on 31 December 1918.^[2] As a standard Wickes-class destroyer, the USS Greer featured the following principal specifications:

Attribute	Details
Displacement	1,060–1,090 tons (standard)
Length	314 feet 4 inches
Beam	30 feet 11 inches
Draft	9 feet
Speed	35 knots
Complement	133 officers and enlisted

Armament and capabilities

The USS Greer (DD-145), a Wickes-class destroyer, entered service with an initial armament comprising four single-mount 4-inch/50 caliber guns positioned fore and aft for surface engagement, one 3-inch/23 caliber anti-aircraft gun amidships for limited aerial defense, and twelve 21-inch torpedo tubes arranged in four triple mounts to deliver offensive strikes against enemy vessels. Depth charge provisions included two racks capable of holding up to 15 charges, supported by tracks for stern deployment, enabling rudimentary anti-submarine operations in line with early 20th-century destroyer doctrine emphasizing torpedo attack over sustained ASW.^[6]^[7]^[8] By 1941 reactivation for Atlantic duties, Greer received engineering modifications prioritizing anti-submarine warfare, including sonar arrays—likely early active-passive systems such as the QC type—for detecting submerged contacts at ranges up to several thousand yards under favorable conditions, supplemented by Y-guns or K-guns for projecting depth charges ahead of the ship. These enhancements, combined with increased depth charge stowage, transformed the vessel's capabilities from fleet torpedo boat to convoy screener, though anti-aircraft suite remained modest with added machine guns rather than heavy mounts. Radar integration, if fitted pre-incident, was rudimentary (e.g., early surface-search sets), aiding night operations but secondary to acoustic detection in U-boat hunts.^[3]^[9] Propulsion via four Yarrow boilers and Parsons geared turbines delivered 27,000 shaft horsepower for a maximum speed of 35 knots, while fuel oil capacity of 295 tons supported an endurance of 2,500 nautical miles at 20 knots—adequate for transatlantic escort legs when supplemented by at-sea refueling, though the class's "wet" forward deck and limited bunkers constrained independent long-range patrols compared to purpose-built WWII escorts.^[6]^[7]^[10]

Early service history

Commissioning and Atlantic-Pacific operations

USS Greer (Destroyer No. 145) was commissioned on 31 December 1918 at the Philadelphia Navy Yard under the command of Comdr. C. E. Smith.^[3] Her initial shakedown cruise took her to the Azores, where she rendezvoused with the troopship George Washington carrying President Woodrow Wilson home from the Versailles Peace Conference; Greer escorted the vessel to the United States, arriving on 25 June 1919.^[3] Following this duty, she operated in Trepassey Bay, Newfoundland, supporting the U.S. Navy's seaplane transatlantic flight operations, during which NC-4 completed the first aerial crossing of the Atlantic on 31 May 1919.^[3] Assigned initially to the Atlantic Fleet, Greer conducted training exercises and participated in a European cruise to refine crew proficiency and operational procedures in the post-World War I peacetime environment.^[3] In late 1919, she transferred to the Pacific Fleet, arriving in San Francisco on 18 November 1919 to join Destroyer Division 13.^[3] Over the next several months, she engaged in routine fleet exercises and patrols along the West Coast, emphasizing tactical maneuvers and readiness drills with no recorded major incidents.^[3] On 25 March 1920, Greer shifted to the Asiatic Fleet, deploying to Shanghai in May 1920 to safeguard American interests amid regional instability; she conducted intelligence-gathering missions to Port Arthur and Darien before returning via Guam, Midway, and Pearl Harbor, reaching San Francisco on 29 September 1921.^[3] Her Pacific operations continued with standard peacetime duties, including escort duties and squadron maneuvers, establishing an empirical baseline of reliable performance without combat engagements or significant mechanical failures.^[3] Greer was decommissioned on 22 June 1922 at San Diego and placed in reserve, concluding her early service phase.^[3]

Interwar decommissions and reactivations

Following her initial decommissioning at San Diego on 22 June 1922, USS Greer (DD-145) entered reserve status amid post-World War I naval reductions influenced by the Washington Naval Treaty of 1922, which capped U.S. destroyer tonnage and prompted the mothballing of many flush-deck vessels to align with fleet limitations and budgetary constraints.^[3] She remained inactive until recommissioned on 31 March 1930 under Commander J. W. Bunkley, reflecting a partial revival of destroyer forces for training amid emerging Pacific concerns, though operations remained routine and non-combat oriented.^[3] During this period, Greer joined the Battle Fleet for exercises along the California coast, including gunnery drills and fleet maneuvers, and conducted visits to Hawaii and Alaska to support inter-fleet coordination without significant independent deployments.^[3] These activities underscored the U.S. Navy's emphasis on readiness maintenance over expansion, constrained by ongoing treaty obligations and domestic isolationist policies, until she decommissioned a second time on 27 July 1937 at the Philadelphia Navy Yard for reserve berthing.^[3] The 1937 inactivation aligned with renewed fiscal austerity following the Great Depression, prioritizing newer vessels while older destroyers like Greer underwent minimal upkeep in rotating reserve.^[3] As European hostilities escalated with the outbreak of war on 1 September 1939, Greer was reactivated on 4 October 1939 under Commander J. J. Mahoney, joining Destroyer Division 61 as flagship to bolster coastal defenses and training cadres in response to heightened Atlantic threats, though her initial duties focused on domestic maintenance and limited drills rather than overseas commitments.^[3] This recommissioning exemplified strategic hedging against global instability without formal belligerency, driven by intelligence on Axis naval expansions and the need to expand the pool of operational hulls for potential escalation.^[3]

World War II involvement

Neutrality patrols prior to the Greer Incident

Following recommissioning on 4 October 1939 under Commander J. J. Mahoney, USS Greer joined Destroyer Division 61 as flagship and conducted initial patrols along the East Coast and in the Caribbean Sea to enforce U.S. neutrality amid the European war.^[3] These operations aligned with President Franklin D. Roosevelt's 5 September 1939 proclamation establishing a neutrality patrol extending 300 miles offshore to report belligerent warship movements.^[3] In February 1940, Greer was assigned to the expanded North Atlantic Neutrality Patrol, focusing on monitoring Axis naval activities, including German U-boats, while avoiding direct confrontation to maintain official U.S. non-belligerency.^[3] Detached from these duties on 5 October 1940, the destroyer cruised to the Caribbean for training before resuming Atlantic patrols in January 1941, operating from forward bases at Reykjavik, Iceland, and Argentia, Newfoundland, to safeguard sea lanes vital for Lend-Lease shipments authorized by the 11 March 1941 act.^[3]^[2] Throughout early 1941, Greer's missions emphasized routine sonar tracking and visual surveillance of suspected Axis vessels, relaying intelligence to Allied forces without initiating combat, as U.S. policy shifted toward "short-of-war" measures supporting Britain and its partners against German submarine warfare.^[3] This included escorting mail and supply transports to Iceland following the U.S. occupation of bases there on 7 July 1941 under Lend-Lease agreements, heightening tensions in waters where German operations threatened transatlantic convoys.^[2]

The Greer Incident

On September 4, 1941, southeast of Iceland, the USS Greer (DD-145), under Commander Frederick S. Hall, was conducting a neutrality patrol when a British PBY Catalina flying boat signaled the presence of a submerged German U-boat at approximately 07:55 local time.^[2] The aircraft had dropped depth charges on the contact prior to alerting Greer, which immediately commenced sonar tracking and closed to within 100 yards of the submerged vessel, later identified as U-652 commanded by Oberleutnant zur See Georg-Werner Fraatz.^[11]^[12] Greer initiated attacks by dropping 11 depth charges in patterns over the subsequent two hours, starting around 08:40, while maintaining sonar contact and maneuvering to prosecute the target.^[2] In response, U-652 fired two torpedoes at Greer at 08:49; both missed, with one reportedly circling back toward the U-boat itself before detonating harmlessly.^[11] Greer evaded the incoming torpedoes without sustaining damage and continued its depth charge assault until approximately 10:40, when sonar contact was lost.^[13] The engagement resulted in no casualties or structural damage to Greer, marking the first direct exchange of fire between U.S. naval forces and a German U-boat during World War II.^[5] U-652 survived the attack and proceeded to operations against Allied convoys.^[11]

Post-incident convoy escorts and auxiliary roles

Following the Greer incident of September 4, 1941, USS Greer persisted in North Atlantic operations through the end of the year, escorting convoys to and from the mid-ocean meeting point where U.S. ships relieved British escorts to sustain Allied supply lines across the ocean.^[3] After an overhaul in Boston, Greer resumed patrol duties in the Caribbean on March 3, 1942, where she rescued a total of 39 survivors from vessels sunk by German U-boats during early 1942 operations.^[3] This included picking up 24 survivors from the U.S. merchant ship SS Robin Hood on April 23, 1942, after it was torpedoed and sunk without escort by U-575 northwest of Bermuda on April 16.^[3]^[1]^[14] In May 1942, Greer conducted guard duty off Pointe-à-Pitre, Guadeloupe, to deter any attempt by Vichy French forces to sortie the cruiser Jeanne d'Arc.^[3] Later that month, from May 11 to June 1, she escorted a convoy of 83 merchant ships from New York to Casablanca, providing anti-submarine screening that supported the uninterrupted delivery of vital materiel to North Africa.^[3] These roles underscored Greer's reliability in auxiliary and escort functions amid intensifying U-boat threats, with no U-boat sinkings credited to her actions during this period but consistent contributions to convoy protection.^[3]

Later wartime operations and decommissioning

In 1943, USS Greer continued convoy escort duties in the Atlantic, departing Argentia, Newfoundland, on March 1 to protect merchant ships bound for Northern Ireland; the convoy suffered the loss of seven vessels to U-boat attacks before arriving at Londonderry on March 13.^[3] She returned to Hampton Roads on April 15 with the tanker Chicopee, then departed New York on May 11 as part of an 83-ship convoy that reached Casablanca on June 1, returning to New York on June 27.^[3] Additional runs included a return to New York from Northern Ireland on August 11 and plane guard duties for the escort carrier Santee in the British West Indies starting August 26; on October 15, Greer collided with the minesweeper Moonstone off the Delaware Capes, sinking the latter but rescuing all but one of its crew.^[3] By 1944, Greer transitioned toward auxiliary roles, returning to Boston on February 9 after another Casablanca convoy before serving as plane guard for carriers including Ranger, Tripoli, Mission Bay, and Wake Island from New England ports during the summer.^[3] On December 26, she escorted the French cruiser Gloire from New York to Norfolk.^[3] In early 1945, Greer conducted plane guard operations at Key West from February until June 11.^[3] She decommissioned at the Philadelphia Navy Yard on July 19, 1945, was struck from the Naval Vessel Register on August 13, 1945, and sold for scrap to the Boston Metals Company on November 30, 1945.^[3]^[1]

The Greer Incident in historical context

American government narrative

![President Franklin D. Roosevelt delivering his September 11, 1941 fireside chat][float-right] President Franklin D. Roosevelt, in his September 11, 1941, fireside chat, portrayed the USS Greer incident as an unprovoked act of aggression by a German U-boat against a U.S. Navy vessel engaged in routine duties. He stated that the Navy Department had reported the Greer was proceeding on her lawful mission of delivering mail to Iceland on September 4, 1941, when the submarine deliberately fired torpedoes at her without warning, with the first torpedo passing ahead of the ship and a second exploding 100 yards astern.^[15] ^[16] Roosevelt emphasized that the Greer responded only in self-defense, maneuvering to avoid further torpedoes and counterattacking with depth charges after the initial strikes, which he described as the destroyer's "proper and necessary action." This account positioned the U-boat's actions as piratical and in violation of international norms, ignoring any prior engagement by the Greer in public statements.^[15] ^[16] The narrative justified Roosevelt's announcement of a "shoot on sight" policy, directing U.S. naval and air patrols to fire upon German or Italian warships entering waters essential to American defense, particularly those threatening Lend-Lease convoys; he likened U-boats to "rattlesnakes of the Atlantic" that strike without provocation, framing the order as a defensive measure to secure freedom of the seas and protect American interests amid escalating Axis threats.^[15] ^[16]

German U-boat perspective

According to the war diary of U-652, commanded by Oberleutnant zur See Georg-Werner Fraatz, the submarine detected an aircraft attack on September 4, 1941, approximately 180 miles southwest of Reykjavik, Iceland, followed by depth charges that it attributed to the pursuing destroyer, prompting a retaliatory torpedo firing as a measure of self-defense.^[11] Fraatz's log entries noted the destroyer's aggressive sonar pings and maneuvers, which were interpreted as hostile intent, leading to two torpedo launches aimed at what was perceived as a British vessel based on its conduct in coordinating with the RAF bomber, with no deliberate targeting of an American ship.^[17] The U-boat reported enduring over 19 depth charges during a prolonged two-hour engagement, escaping undamaged but emphasizing that its actions responded to the initial assault rather than initiating unprovoked aggression.^[11] German naval high command in Berlin endorsed U-652's account in official statements, rejecting claims of predatory attack and framing the torpedoes as a necessary counter to what they described as an unneutral U.S. destroyer actively hunting U-boats in violation of America's proclaimed neutrality.^[18] Admiralty reports highlighted the Greer’s role in relaying the submarine's position to the British aircraft, which dropped four depth charges before departing, as evidence of collaborative provocation that justified the submarine's defensive response under prize rules and international law as understood by the Kriegsmarine.^[11] This perspective portrayed U.S. Atlantic patrols as extensions of Allied operations, transforming neutral waters into de facto combat zones where submarines acted to preserve their survival against perceived aggressors.^[17]

Debates on provocation and implications for U.S. entry into war

Historians have debated whether the Greer incident constituted a German provocation or an American-initiated engagement, with primary evidence from naval logs indicating that the USS Greer detected U-652 via sonar contact provided by a British aircraft, tracked the submarine for over two hours, and fired the first shots by dropping eight depth charges before the U-boat launched torpedoes that missed.^[3] This sequence challenges the Roosevelt administration's portrayal of the encounter as an unprovoked "piratical" attack, as articulated in President Franklin D. Roosevelt's September 11, 1941, fireside chat, where he omitted the Greer's prior offensive actions and emphasized the torpedoes as deliberate aggression to rally public support against isolationism.^[4] German accounts, including from U-652's commander Hans-Jürgen Ahrens, countered that the destroyer had acted as the aggressor by hunting and attacking the submerged vessel, mistaking it for a combatant in the ongoing Battle of the Atlantic.^[19] Revisionist scholars argue that the incident exemplified the United States' preexisting "undeclared naval war" against Germany, paralleling earlier actions like the USS Niblack's depth charge attack on a U-boat near a convoy on April 10, 1941, which marked the first American use of ordnance in the European theater and reflected President Roosevelt's directives for aggressive neutrality patrols extending beyond the Western Hemisphere defense zone.^[20] These analysts, drawing on declassified records, contend that Roosevelt exaggerated the event's one-sided nature to justify escalating involvement, including the "shoot-on-sight" order issued the same day as the fireside chat, amid domestic debates over Lend-Lease aid and convoy protections that effectively aligned U.S. forces with Allied operations.^[20] Orthodox interpretations, however, maintain that German misidentification of the Greer—possibly as a British vessel due to its position and radio signals—and the broader U-boat campaign's intensification represented Axis escalation, framing the incident as a catalyst for necessary defensive measures rather than contrived provocation.^[4] Despite the absence of damage or casualties, the symbolic weight of the clash amplified calls for unrestricted warfare in the Atlantic, contributing to the erosion of isolationist sentiment in Congress and the public just months before Pearl Harbor; revisionists highlight how such narratives, supported by selective disclosure of facts, facilitated the transition from aid to active belligerency without formal declaration until December 1941.^[19]^[20] Critics of interventionist historiography note potential biases in official U.S. records and media amplification, urging scrutiny of primary logs over postwar orthodox accounts that downplay American initiative in the "phony war" phase.^[3]

Awards and legacy

The USS Greer earned one battle star for her World War II service, recognizing her contributions to operations in the European-African-Middle Eastern Theater.^[3] This award denoted participation in convoy escort duties and antisubmarine patrols following the Greer Incident, amid the escalating undeclared naval conflict with German U-boats in the Atlantic.^[3] Standard service medals for ships of her era and operational area included the American Defense Service Medal (with Fleet Clasp for pre-1941 neutrality patrols), American Campaign Medal, and World War II Victory Medal, though specific clasps varied by documented engagements.^[21] The ship's legacy centers on the Greer Incident of September 4, 1941, when she became the first U.S. Navy vessel to engage an Axis warship in combat during the war, launching depth charges at the German submarine U-652 after evading its torpedoes.^[3] This clash, occurring three months before Pearl Harbor, prompted President Franklin D. Roosevelt's "shoot on sight" directive in his September 11 fireside chat, authorizing U.S. forces to fire upon German vessels encroaching on defined security zones and effectively initiating an undeclared naval war in the Atlantic.^[2] The incident highlighted the fragility of American neutrality and accelerated the transition to open belligerency, influencing subsequent U.S. policy and operations that supported Allied convoys against the U-boat threat.^[3] Postwar assessments, including those from naval records, underscore Greer's role in demonstrating the practical limits of isolationism amid Axis aggression, though German accounts contested the engagement's initiation.^[2]

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