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[PDF] The Filioque: A Church Dividing Issue?: An Agreed Statement - usccbOct 25, 2003 · The Filioque is the addition to the Nicene Creed, "and from the Son," which is a cause of division between Orthodox and Catholic churches.
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'. . . and the Son': Basics of the 'Filioque' - Word on FireMar 20, 2025 · Filioque is a Latin construct, basically equivalent to et Filio, meaning “and the Son.” This version of the creed says that the Holy Spirit “proceeds from the ...<|separator|>
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The Filioque: a Church-Dividing Issue? An Agreed statement of the ...No clear record exists of the process by which the word Filioque was inserted into the Creed of 381 in the Christian West before the sixth century. The idea ...
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The Filioque Clause - Orthodox Church in AmericaJul 11, 2012 · The Filioque clause, meaning 'from the Son', is added to the Creed in the West, stating the Spirit proceeds from the Father and the Son, which ...
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The Great Schism of 1054 by Stephen Nichols - Ligonier MinistriesThe Great Schism of 1054 was a split between the Roman Catholic and Orthodox churches, caused by the "filioque" phrase and disagreements over the Nicene Creed.Missing: controversy | Show results with:controversy
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the interpretation of the filioque clause by orthodox ecclesiology and ...Jan 17, 2018 · In this paper, we are going to examine the filioque clause from an Orthodox perspective and explain why the Orthodox Church does not accept the term filioque ...
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The Nicene – Constantinopolitan CreedApr 8, 2025 · The Nicene Creed simply states that the Church believes 'in the Holy Spirit', the Nicene-Constantinopolitan Creed contains the fuller statement 'and in the ...
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CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA: Filioque - New AdventFilioque is a theological formula expressing the Holy Ghost's procession from both Father and Son, and was the cause of the Greek schism.
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Explaining the Trinity | Catholic Answers MagazineJun 20, 2014 · Thus, the Holy Spirit's procession is not intellectual and generative, but has its origin in God's will and in the ultimate act of the will, ...
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What is the eternal procession of the Holy Spirit? | GotQuestions.orgMay 16, 2025 · The eternal procession of the Holy Spirit is a biblical teaching that explains the relationship of the Holy Spirit to the other Persons of the Trinity.
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Question 36. The person of the Holy Ghost - New AdventTherefore if the Holy Ghost is from the Father through the Son, it follows that the Son is first generated and afterwards the Holy Ghost proceeds; and thus the ...
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What the Early Church Believed: Filioque | Catholic Answers TractThe Western Church commonly uses a version of the Nicene creed which has the Latin word filioque (“and the Son”) added after the declaration that the Holy ...
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Filioque - OrthodoxWikiFilioque is a Latin word meaning "and the Son" which was added to the Nicene-Constantinopolitan Creed by the Church of Rome in the 11th century.
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[PDF] The Procession of the Holy Spirit in Orthodox Trinitarian DoctrineWhether we like it or not, the question of the procession of the Holy Spirit has been the sole dogmatic grounds for the separation of East and West.
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The Filioque Dispute | Eclectic Orthodoxy - WordPress.comAug 19, 2023 · The point of the creedal language of divine generation is to insist that the Son and Spirit are eternally distinct from the Father and from each other.
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The Procession of the Holy Spirit in Greek and Latin TraditionsIn the same way, if in the Trinitarian order the Holy Spirit is consecutive to the relation between the Father and the Son, since he takes his origin from the ...
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[PDF] by Robert Letham Introduction The filioque clauseThus the Western view, in Eastern eyes, compromises the monarchy of the Father. The Greek fathers held that the Holy. Spirit is the treasure and the Son is the ...
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Father, Son, and Controversy - Desiring GodMar 23, 2020 · In 1054, a theological controversy erupted that left the Christian world divided in two. And it focused on a single Latin word: filioque.
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John 15:26 When the Advocate comes, whom I will send to you from ...But when the Advocate has arrived, whom I will send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth who proceeds from the Father, he will offer testimony about me.
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What Is the Procession of the Holy Spirit? - Ligonier MinistriesDec 17, 2024 · The Nicene Creed. This creed originates from the Council of Constantinople (381), which resolved a crisis over the doctrine of the Trinity.
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St. Augustine of Hippo – Procession of the Holy Spirit ... - Erick YbarraJul 7, 2018 · “The procession of the Holy Spirit in Orthodox Trinitarian doctrine. Whether we like it or not, the question of the procession of the Holy ...
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Greek and Latin Traditions Regarding the Procession of the Holy SpiritJn 15:26), it affirms that he comes from the Father through the Son. The Western tradition expresses first the consubstantial communion between Father and Son, ...
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CHURCH FATHERS: De Spiritu Sancto (Basil) - New AdventIt is called Spirit of God, Spirit of truth which proceeds from the Father, John 15:26 right Spirit, a leading Spirit. Its proper and peculiar title is Holy ...
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Gregory of Nazianzus - Credo MagazineJun 22, 2020 · Building on the difference between the Son and the Spirit, Gregory uses the word “procession,” which is found in the Greek text of John 15:26.
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CHURCH FATHERS: Homily 77 on the Gospel of John (Chrysostom)John 15:26-27 ; He shall be worthy of belief, for He is the Spirit of Truth. On this account He called It not ; Holy Spirit, but ; Spirit of Truth. But the, ...Missing: procession | Show results with:procession
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CHURCH FATHERS: On the Trinity, Book VIII (Hilary of Poitiers)It only remains to make sure of our conviction on the point, whether we are to believe an egress of a co-existent Being, or a procession of a Being begotten.
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St. Maximos the Confessor and the Filioque Doctrine Part IDec 3, 2006 · So far, we have set the stage with a key text that will allow me to see exactly how Maximos understood the filioque (in St. Martin's day) of the ...
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CHURCH FATHERS: Fifth Theological Oration (Oration 31) (Gregory ...The Fifth Theological Oration. On the Holy Spirit. I. Such then is the account of the Son, and in this manner He has escaped those who would stone Him.
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St. Maximos the Confessor on the Filioque - Eastern CatholicMar 18, 2010 · This quotation from St. Maximos is the earliest patristic evidence of a Greek-Latin dispute over Latin teaching concerning the procession of the Holy Spirit.
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Maximus the Confessor | The Filioque - Oxford AcademicThe first reference we have to a theological debate concerning the filioque is found in Maximus the Confessor's Letter to Marinus, written in the mid-seventh ...
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An Exposition of the Orthodox Faith (Book I) - New AdventThe Holy Spirit is one Spirit, going forth from the Father, not in the manner of Sonship but of procession; so that neither has the Father lost His property of ...
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CHURCH FATHERS: Against Praxeas (Tertullian) - New AdventIn all other respects the Father did not forsake the Son, for it was into His Father's hands that the Son commended His spirit. Luke 23:46 Indeed, after so ...
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[PDF] Hilary of Poitiers' View of the Holy Spirit - Church Society'8 Hilary earlier established a link between the idea of procession from the Father in relation to both the Spirit and the Son in. 6.35 and 12.41, which may ...
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Augustine, the Trinity, and the Filioque-Yves CongarJan 28, 2016 · Augustine notes that 'Spirit' (holy Spirit) can be applied either to the Father or to the Son or can point to the third Person. He has this to ...
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The Filioque in the Eastern Fathers - Padre PeregrinoFeb 7, 2024 · This means there's Scriptural and Patristic proof that the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father and the Son, even if certain Christians insist ...
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Filioque | Catholic Answers MagazineIn order to understand the filioque controversy, we have to go back to the early fourth century. A priest named Arius argued that Jesus wasn't equal to God ...
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Should the Nicene Creed Drop One Clause? (The Filioque Debate)May 4, 2023 · Arianism taught that the Son was inferior to the Father, and it used the procession of the Holy Spirit from the Father as an example of how he ...<|separator|>
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THE FILIOQUE-AN HISTORICAL JOURNEY WITH A SEEMINGLY ...12 The first insertion of the Filioque into the Nicene-Constantinopolitan Creed is said to have come about at the local council at Toledo (Spain) in 589.39 ...
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Christianity 101 The Theology of the Ancient Creeds Part 6The Father always existed and the Son always existed, and the Spirit breathes from the Father and the Son; and neither is the Son created nor is the Spirit ...
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The Further Development of the Nicene CreedTo counter Arianism in the Visigothic kingdom, the orthodox clerics at the Third Council of Toledo (589) added the word filioque (“and the Son”) to the Creed's ...
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The Filioque from the Seventh to the Eleventh CenturyHadrian's own letter to the bishops of Spain professed the filioque (Spiritum Sanctum … ... Felix Heinzer and Christoph Schönborn, eds., Maximus Confessor, 343–64 ...
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Western Latin Liturgics | Carolingian Reforms... filioque" clause. In response to disputes of heretical groups concerning the nature of the Trinity, the phrase concerning the procession of the Holy Spirit ...
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The Filioque: a very basic introduction - De unione ecclesiarumThe actual insertion of the word Filioque into the text of the Creed of Constantinople almost certainly occurred in Spain, sometime between the Third and the ...
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Summary of the Filioque Controversy - Erick Ybarra - WordPress.comNov 20, 2021 · * The Greeks had 2 primary arguments against the Filioque. First, that it abrogated the Monarchy of the Fathers, and second, that it forced all ...<|control11|><|separator|>
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The Age of Photius (843–886) - Oxford AcademicPhotius's second patriarchate (877–886): the council of 879–880: the alleged second Photian schism. It appeared to have been understood that when Ignatius died ...Missing: 9th | Show results with:9th
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The great divorce | Christian History MagazineThe addition spread to France and Germany, where it was welcomed by Charlemagne and adopted at the Council of Frankfurt (794). Rome did not use the filioque ...Geo-Political Realities · Open Conflict · Missionary Politics
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[PDF] 1 Trinity, Filioque and Semantic Ascent Christians believe that the ...Later in the century, it became the theological bone of contention in the Photian Schism, the fallout of a dispute between Patriarch Photios of ...Missing: articles | Show results with:articles
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[PDF] THE STATIONS OF THE FILIOQUEAug 20, 2023 · the ninth century that bound fast the filioque to Romes peculiar definition of papal primacy and precipitated the Photian Schism. Yet even ...Missing: 9th details
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Council of Constantinople - 867 (Against Filioque)The Council condemns and deposes Pope Nicholas of Rome on the charges of introducing the heretical filioque clause in the creed, as used by the Pope's ...
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(PDF) The Filioque: Answering the Eastern Orthodox - Academia.eduThe Filioque controversy stands as the pivotal theological dispute that ignited the schism between the Catholic and Eastern Orthodox Churches.
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CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA: Photius of Constantinople - New AdventHe revoked the acts of the former synod (869), repeated all his accusations against the Latins, dwelling especially on the filioque grievance, anathematized all ...
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(PDF) Photius and the Councils (AD 859-880) - Academia.eduThe Filioque controversy, while pivotal, was not a central topic during the 879 council discussions. The political context heavily influenced ecclesiastical ...
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Patriarch Photius and Pope Nicholas I and the Council of 879In this atmosphere, the criticisms that Photios had made about the insertion of the filioque into the Nicene Creed were taken as a clear example of the errors ...
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The 8th Ecumenical Council: Constantinople IV (879/880) and the ...The Eighth Ecumenical Council of Constantinople (879/880) condemn the Filioque addition to the Ecumenical Creed as canonically unacceptable and theologically ...
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[PDF] The-Synod-of-Constantinople-879-880-The-Oecumenical-Synods-of ...The Synod of. 879–880 also implicitly condemned the Filioque by publishing the full original text of the Symbol of Faith, the Nicæno-Con- stantinopolitan Creed, ...
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A Church Divided: The East-West Schism of 1054 - 1517Jul 16, 2024 · ... Filioque issue, a matter critical to Frankish Christians, generally accepted within the West and wholly rejected in the East. The Filioque ...
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1054 The East-West Schism | Christian History MagazineThe East-West Schism was a division between Latin and Greek churches, not caused by 1054, but by different views of church authority and the way each church ...
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The Orthodox Faith - Volume III - Eleventh Century - The Great Schism... filioque, finally used this addition to the Creed in public worship for the first time—at the coronation of Henry II as Holy Roman Emperor. Ironically ...
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Milton V. Anastos - 19. The Normans and the schism of 1054... Humbert decided to excommunicate him. In his bull of excommunication,(196) he not only cited the alleged omission of Filioque as one of his grievances ...
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Is the Filioque a Church-Dividing Issue? - Crossroads Initiative... mutual excommunication of the Pope and the Ecumenical Patriarch of Constantinople in 1054. ... The Filioque figured prominently in the tumultuous events of 1054 ...
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The Papal Bull of Excommunication in 1054 - Classical ChristianityJul 3, 2014 · The Papal Bull of Excommunication in 1054 ... Humbert, cardinal bishop of the holy Roman Church by the grace of God; Peter, Archbishop of Amalfi; ...Missing: Filioque | Show results with:Filioque
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The Schism of 1054 (Chapter 7)Feb 28, 2025 · The council's decree that orthodoxy required belief in the filioque meant that the Eastern Church was in heresy. Charlemagne sent three ...Missing: 9th | Show results with:9th
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Great Schism of 1054: Why the Church Split East and WestMay 28, 2025 · The Great Schism resulted from growing tension, political divides, language barriers, and the filioque controversy, with the immediate cause ...
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[PDF] The Filioque: What Is at Stake? - Concordia Theological SeminaryJan 2, 2025 · But the popes also defended the orthodoxy of the double procession against some Eastern objections. Although precise information is lacking, ...
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The Orthodox Faith - Volume III - The Second Council of LyonsIt was at this council that for the first time the Western Church proclaimed that the filioque must be accepted as dogma. The Union agreement that restored ...
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[PDF] The Filioque Clause in the Teaching of Anselm of Canterbury — Part 2Anselm's filioque doctrine underscores the principle that God remains true to himself, that God is indeed in his own being what he reveals himself to be, The ...
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Note on the Filioque Clause: St. Thomas Aquinas on the Procession ...Jun 12, 2013 · Since the ACNA is dickering with the Creed re the “filioque” clause, it's informative to look at Thomas Aquinas' analysis of the problem.
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Defending the Filioque | Catholic Answers MagazineFilioque is Latin for “and the Son” and refers to the part of the Nicene Creed wherein Christians declare the Holy Spirit “proceeds from the Father and the Son ...
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Council of Basel-Ferrara-Florence, 1431-49 AD - Papal EncyclicalsThe council was transferred to Florence on 10 January 1439. There, in the session on 6 July 1439, the decree of union with the Greek church was approved.
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CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA: Council of Florence - New AdventGenerally, however, it is ranked as an ecumenical council until the decree of dissolution in 1437. After its transfer to Ferrara, the first session of the ...Missing: sources | Show results with:sources
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Denzinger - English translation, older numbering - patristica.netDecree for the Greeks * [From the Bull "Laetentur coeli," July 6, 1439] 691 [The procession of the Holy Spirit] In the name of the Holy Trinity, of the ...Missing: Caeli | Show results with:Caeli
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St. Mark of Ephesus and the False Union of Florence[7] The Pope demanded that St. Mark be deprived of his rank then and there for his refusal to sign the Act of Union. But Emperor John did not allow him to be ...<|separator|>
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The Council of Florence (1438-1439) and the Problem of Union ...Why was the filioque such a formidable obstacle to union? What did the ... order to discuss the final act of union at the Council of Florence. Urged on ...
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How Did Alexandria, Antioch and Jerusalem Respond to the Council ...Nov 7, 2024 · Most Orthodox accounts, at least in English, of why the Union of Florence was rejected center on St Mark of Ephesus' singular stand against the council.
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COUNCIL OF FLORENCE 1438-1445: A Decree in Behalf of the ...COUNCIL OF FLORENCE 1438-1445. Ecumenical XVII (Union with the Greeks, Armenians, Jacobites). A Decree in Behalf of the Jacobites *.Missing: Decretum pro Filioque
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ECUMENICAL COUNCIL OF FLORENCE (1438-1445) | EWTNThis holy synod decrees, wishes, ordains and declares that the future ecumenical council ought to be held at the due and agreed time in the city of Basel.
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The Mystagogy of the Holy Spirit - S I L O U A NJun 21, 2019 · Saint Photios leads the reader through the Church's teaching on the Person of the Holy Spirit, and demonstrates how the Filioque does ...
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A Theological Introduction to the Mystagogy of Saint PhotiosSep 9, 2009 · When the Spirit proceeds from the Father he sets out towards the Son; the Son is the goal at which He will stop.120. Gregory's formula exposed ...
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Saint Photius the Great - Mystagogy of the Holy Spirit - MYRIOBIBLOSa miracle testified by miracles — he saw the All-Holy Spirit descending in the form of a dove. Thus, seeing the unseeable, the true ...Missing: summary | Show results with:summary
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St. Photius of Constantinople - Orthodox RoadFeb 6, 2020 · In 867, Photius sent a famous Encyclical to the Eastern Patriarchs and held a great council with many hundreds participating. The council ...
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Oriental Orthodox agreement on the Holy Spirit signed in DublinNov 2, 2017 · Therefore, the Oriental Orthodox Churches consider the addition of Filioque as an error since it breaks the order within the Trinity and ...
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We Believe - St. John Armenian ChurchThe Armenian Church also believes that the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father alone and does not teach the western doctrine of the “Filioque.” The ...
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[PDF] procession of the holy spiritThe Orthodox Church insists on refusing the addition of the Filioque because of the early Church's experience and teach ing about the Holy Spirit are reflected ...<|separator|>
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Saint Gregory of Tatev (Armenian Church) - Against those who say ...Oct 17, 2023 · Saint Gregory of Tatev (Armenian Church) - Against those who say the Spirit emanates from both the Father and the Son (Filioque) · Comments ...
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[PDF] Lecture III: The Filioque Controversy - SUSCopts.orgQ1: St. Cyril of Alexandria said: 'The Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father and the Son, for He belongs to the divine Being and inheres in it ...
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The Creed | Malankara Orthodox Syrian ChurchThe dispute over the Filioque clause was one of the reasons for the East-West Schism. The clause had been adopted in the west , although the Third Ecumenical ...
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Filioque - Tasbeha.org CommunityFilique is a part fo the creed which the Romans added, but was not accepted by the Orthodox Church. Orthodox Creed "And we believe in the holy Ghost, the Lord, ...
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[PDF] Catechism The Holy Apostolic Catholic Assyrian Church of the East ByCatholic Assyrian Church of the East. ... This unity is fully expressed, visually, by the unity of the Nicene Creed and by communion in prayer and Sacraments.
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[PDF] We Believe (ܢܢܝܢܡܝܗܡ) – The Nicene Creed - Fred AprimApr 12, 2023 · During the daily worship service in the apostolic churches, the congregation cite the Nicene Creed “We ... Assyrian Church of the East ...
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Our Faith - Assyrian Church of the East - Mar Yosip ParishWe believe in one Holy Spirit, the Spirit of Truth, who proceeds from the Father; the life-giving Spirit. We profess the Seven Sacraments of the Assyrian Church ...
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Doctrine - Assyrian Church of the EastThe teaching of the Church of the East is based on the faith of the universal Church as set forth in the Nicene Creed. ... Assyrian Church of the East, holds ...Missing: Filioque | Show results with:Filioque
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How different is the Orthodox Church and the Assyrian Church of the ...Feb 10, 2024 · The Assyrian Church of the East claims continuity with the historical Church of the East, and it is not in communion with either the Oriental ...
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Assyrian Churches: Unity in FaithApr 13, 2023 · Regarding the Filioque, the Catholic Church ... Assyrian Church of the East to restore communion with the Orthodox and Miasphysite Churches.
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A Pastoral Case for the Filioque Clause - The Gospel CoalitionApr 7, 2011 · The Bible gives us every reason to believe that the filioque clause accurately reflects God's work and Word.
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The Spirit Who Proceeds | Reformed Bible Studies & Devotionals at ...Aug 23, 2018 · The Western version states that the Holy Spirit “proceeds from the Father and the Son.” The “and the Son” portion of the creed is also known as ...
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On the Filioque - by Kjetil Kringlebotten - The Lutheran NeoplatonistAug 2, 2024 · The Filioque helps us understand the relations in the Godhead. The doctrine is important in that it shows us that the Spirit is not subordinate ...
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Lutheran-Orthodox Common Statement on the FilioqueJul 30, 2024 · The LWF and the Orthodox Church have issued a joint statement on the Filioque clause in the Nicene Creed, which could have impact on relations between churches.
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The Filioque: What it is and Why it Matters - Reformation ChambersOct 21, 2020 · The Filioque Clause is the teaching that the Holy Spirit eternally proceeds from both the Father and the Son.
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The Nicene Creed: “For Us” and Filioque - Clearly ReformedJan 21, 2024 · The filioque means that the Spirit glorifies Christ and leads us to worship and bow the knee to the glory of God the Father for eternity.
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Anglicans encouraged to drop filioque from Nicene CreedOct 13, 2015 · Earlier in 1976, the recommendation of the Anglican-(Eastern) Orthodox dialogue to omit the Filioque became Resolution 35 of the 1978 Lambeth ...
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Filioque - The Episcopal ChurchThe Lambeth Conference of 1988 recommended that the phrase be dropped from the Nicene Creed in Anglican churches.
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The Filioque and Its Current Status [Commentary on Browne: Article V]Apr 26, 2023 · ... Anglican Communion should consider omitting the Filioque from the Nicene Creed.” Notably, while the Anglican Church in North America ...
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Muller On Reformed Orthodoxy On Double Procession And The ...Mar 22, 2014 · From the Reformed perspective, moreover, the Greek critique of the filioque, that it implied two ultimate principia or archai in the Godhead, ...<|separator|>
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The North American Orthodox-Catholic Theological ConsultationThe North American Orthodox-Catholic Theological Consultation was founded in 1965 and is sponsored by the Committee for Ecumenical Relations.
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The Filioque: A Church Dividing Issue?: An Agreed Statement - usccb2003. Language. English. Statement of the North American Orthodox-Catholic Theological Consultation, "The Filioque: A Church Dividing Issue?: An Agreed ...
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Why are Syro-Malabar Catholics debating the 'Filioque' clause?Mar 5, 2024 · For centuries, Eastern and Western Christians have disputed the Filioque clause, the Latin phrase meaning “and from the Son” that Catholics ...
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Pope Francis hopes for 'reconciled differences' with Orthodox and ...Oct 16, 2024 · Pope Francis noted that the later addition of the “Filioque,” Latin for “and from the Son” in the creed, sparked a dispute that “has been ...Missing: omission | Show results with:omission
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Pope says he hopes for 'reconciled differences' among ChristiansOct 16, 2024 · Pope Francis called on divided Christians to overcome their doctrinal differences and walk together in love, expressing hope especially for greater unity.
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Filioque Controversy Exposed: How One Word Divided ChristianityTheologically, they argue that the Filioque distorts the monarchy of the Father—the doctrine that the Father alone is the sole arche (source or principle) of ...
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What is the filioque clause? (Nicene Creed) - Anthony DelgadoSep 28, 2025 · This article will explore the meaning of the filioque clause, its historical development, biblical basis, the objections raised against it, and ...1. Meaning Of The Filioque... · 2. Historical Background Of... · Key Developments<|control11|><|separator|>
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Musings on a Filioque - Christian Apologetics AllianceDec 18, 2013 · Orthodox opposition to the filioque is a last lingering remnant of subordinationism.” He states that the denial of the filioque is a remnant of ...Missing: prevents | Show results with:prevents
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Drop The Filioque .Com - Orthodox-Reformed BridgeSep 2, 2013 · Originally the Church in Spain inserted the “filioque” into the Creed after the Council of Toledo in 589 as a part of their conflict with Arians ...
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Why Is the Filioque a Big Deal to Eastern Orthodox?Feb 1, 2023 · Does the question about whether the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father “and from the son” really divide churches? Cy Kellett: Hello, and ...
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The Insertion of the Filioque into the Nicene Creed and a Letter of ...Aug 7, 2025 · In contrast, the manuscript evidence indicates it first appeared at the Eighth Council of Toledo in 653. The date of the insertion can be ...
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What's the Story Behind the [Filioque Clause]? | By Tiffany ButlerMay 23, 2021 · The Clause asserts the procession of the Holy Spirit from the Father and the Son. The 381 AD Creed stated that the Holy Spirit “proceeds from the Father.”
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Filioque Refuted - Patristic FaithAug 22, 2022 · This video refutes Tim Staples' article on the Filioque and the Filioque quote mine to illustrate that not only is Catholic Answers wrong on the Filioque.
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When was the filioque added? (Nicene Creed) - Anthony DelgadoSep 28, 2025 · The filioque was first formally added at the Third Council of Toledo in 589. The historical context was deeply political. King Reccared of Spain ...
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Vindicating the Filioque is an exhaustive study with an ecumenical ...Jun 8, 2024 · The Council of Florence in 1439 defined the filioque, the procession of the Holy Spirit from the Father and the Son, as Catholic dogma.