So There
So There is a 2015 studio album by American singer-songwriter Ben Folds in collaboration with the New York-based chamber ensemble yMusic, blending elements of chamber rock, pop, and classical music.[1] Released on September 11, 2015, by New West Records, the album marks Folds' pivot toward incorporating orchestral strings and chamber arrangements while preserving his signature piano-driven pop style.[1][2] The record consists of eight collaborative songs featuring yMusic's instrumentation—such as strings, woodwinds, and brass—alongside a 21-minute piano concerto divided into three movements, showcasing Folds' compositional range.[1] Key tracks include "Capable of Anything," which opens the album with reflections on human vulnerability, and the title track "So There," a nostalgic meditation on past relationships.[2][3] Other notable songs like "Phone in a Pool" and "Yes Man" explore themes of technology's intrusions and personal authenticity, respectively, all enhanced by yMusic's intricate arrangements.[1] The album received critical acclaim for its innovative fusion of genres, with reviewers praising its emotional depth and Folds' evolution as a musician.[2] In addition to standard editions, So There was released in deluxe formats including vinyl with bonus instrumental versions of select tracks and a high-resolution audio DVD, emphasizing its appeal to both casual listeners and audiophiles.[1] The collaboration with yMusic, known for their work bridging contemporary classical and indie rock, highlights Folds' interest in expanding beyond traditional piano rock into more ambitious ensemble performances.[1]Background
Commission and development
In 2013, Ben Folds was jointly commissioned by the Nashville Ballet, Nashville Symphony, and Minnesota Orchestra to compose his first major orchestral work, a piano concerto.[4][5] This commission marked a significant expansion for Folds, who had previously explored orchestral arrangements in his pop and rock projects but had not yet undertaken a full-scale concerto.[6] Folds spent much of 2013 developing the three-movement concerto, drawing on influences from early 20th-century composers such as Rachmaninov, Ravel, and Gershwin to blend rhythmic pop sensibilities with classical structures.[6][7] The work premiered on March 13, 2014, at the Schermerhorn Symphony Center in Nashville, performed by Folds with the Nashville Symphony under conductor Giancarlo Guerrero.[8][9] During the concerto's development and rehearsals, Folds conceived the idea of integrating it with a set of new chamber pop songs, aiming to create a unified album that bridged his songwriting roots with orchestral ambition—"I wanted the concerto to somehow tie in with the record," he later explained.[10] This vision built on his earlier solo work but scaled up to incorporate ensemble and symphonic elements for a more expansive narrative. The resulting project, So There, paired the concerto with songs later arranged in collaboration with the chamber ensemble yMusic.[2]Collaboration with yMusic
The yMusic Ensemble is a New York-based chamber group founded in 2008 by trumpeter CJ Camerieri and violinist Rob Moose in Brooklyn.[11] Comprising a sextet of trumpet, flute, clarinet, violin, viola, and cello, yMusic is renowned for its innovative blending of classical chamber music with contemporary pop and indie elements, having collaborated with artists such as Bon Iver and Sufjan Stevens.[12] This distinctive instrumentation and stylistic versatility allow the ensemble to create textured, hybrid arrangements that bridge genres.[13] The collaboration between Ben Folds and yMusic originated in 2014 through mutual connections in the music industry, with Folds discovering the group after being impressed by their contributions to recordings by Bon Iver and Sufjan Stevens.[14] He invited them to participate without auditioning other ensembles, describing the partnership as an immediate and intuitive fit akin to a destined creative romance.[14] This collaboration represented a significant co-creative endeavor for yMusic, pairing their arrangements with Folds's piano-driven songs.[15] In shaping the sound of So There, yMusic provided intricate string and wind arrangements for the album's eight chamber pop songs, infusing Folds's piano-driven compositions with lush, orchestral textures that enhanced their emotional depth and rhythmic complexity.[2] Folds typically arrived with melodies and preliminary sketches, which the ensemble refined collaboratively, often starting with a subset of members before involving the full group.[15] Rehearsals commenced in the summer of 2014 and were notably efficient: material was prepared in the morning, performed in the afternoon, and captured in recording after minimal adjustments, usually in just two or three takes.[15] This process allowed yMusic to add principal-level precision and interpretive flair, elevating the songs' chamber-rock aesthetic while preserving Folds's signature wit and accessibility.[16]Recording and production
Studio sessions
The recording sessions for So There primarily took place in October 2014 at Grand Victor Sound, the historic RCA Studio A in Nashville, Tennessee, which Ben Folds had leased and renovated as his personal studio.[16][17] The eight chamber pop songs, featuring the New York-based yMusic ensemble, were tracked first, with sessions spanning multiple locations including New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, and Nashville to accommodate the group's arrangements and overdubs.[18][16] yMusic contributed strings, woodwinds, and brass, often performing live with Folds on piano in a minimalistic setup using ribbon microphones and gobos for isolation, emphasizing natural room ambience without heavy processing during tracking.[16] The 21-minute piano concerto was recorded separately later in the same month, involving the full 83-piece Nashville Symphony orchestra conducted by Giancarlo Guerrero in a single intensive three-hour live session at Grand Victor Sound to preserve the ensemble's dynamic energy.[16][7][17] Producer and engineer Elliot Scheiner oversaw these orchestral sessions, deploying an extensive microphone array—described as nearly "10,000 mics"—on a 1976 API console interfaced with Pro Tools, capturing the orchestra in stereo with ribbon mics for warmth while avoiding EQ or compression to retain the raw performance.[16][17] Integrating the elements presented challenges, particularly in synchronizing the pop songs' rhythmic structures with the concerto's classical precision; initial yMusic tracks omitted bass and drums to highlight chamber textures, necessitating multiple overdubs (such as piano, percussion, and vocals at locations like Avatar Studios in New York) to add groove without disrupting the orchestral fidelity.[16] Scheiner's production focused on this balance during the concerto tracking, ensuring seamless cohesion across the album's hybrid format.[16][17]Concerto composition and orchestration
The "Concerto for Piano and Orchestra" was composed by Ben Folds between 2013 and 2014, following a commission from the Nashville Ballet, the Nashville Symphony, and the Minnesota Orchestra.[6] The work draws influences from early 20th-century classical composers including Rachmaninoff, Ravel, Bartók, and Gershwin, with Folds immersing himself in their scores to study orchestration and structural techniques during the writing process.[6] The piano part highlights Folds' signature energetic and percussive style, rooted in his background as a rock pianist and drummer.[15] The composition unfolded over approximately 18 months, beginning with melodic ideas captured from improvisations and morning inspirations, then expanding into a full orchestral narrative emphasizing a "tug-of-war" dynamic between the piano and orchestra.[6][15] The concerto is structured in three movements, totaling around 20 minutes.[19] Orchestration was handled by Folds in collaboration with a copyist serving as a production advisor, who provided guidance on instrumental balance, such as moderating the use of French horns to avoid overpowering the texture. The score is designed for a full symphony orchestra, with strings forming the core sonority—Folds visualized details like cello bowings and mutes during composition.[15] This setup draws from Folds' study of scores by Ravel, Prokofiev, and Mozart, blending lush romantic swells with precise, modern clarity.[15][6] For the album version on So There, the concerto was recorded in studio sessions with the Nashville Symphony under Giancarlo Guerrero, resulting in edits for seamless flow within the track sequence; this studio rendition varies slightly from the 2014 live premieres, with refined balances and timings to suit the recording medium.[16][20]Musical content
Chamber pop songs
The chamber pop songs on So There feature introspective lyrics centered on relationships, regret, and self-reflection, often exploring the complexities of human connections and personal shortcomings. For instance, "Capable of Anything" delves into the duality of human potential, critiquing the notion that people are "capable of anything" by highlighting both aspirational and destructive capacities, tied to reflections on a failed relationship and humanity's extremes. Similarly, "Phone in a Pool" addresses the urge to disconnect from overwhelming responsibilities and technology, inspired by Folds' impulsive act of discarding his phone to escape constant demands, symbolizing a temporary severance from social expectations. These themes recur across the tracks, as in "Not a Fan," which traces the erosion of a romance through initial tolerance of differences evolving into irreconcilable incompatibilities.[21][22][23][24][25] Musically, the eight songs blend upbeat, piano-driven pop structures with chamber arrangements provided by yMusic, incorporating strings, winds, and percussion to create lush, orchestral textures that elevate the intimacy of Folds' vocals. Tracks like "Yes Man" showcase playful rhythms and dynamic shifts, with yMusic's instrumentation adding whimsical flourishes to lyrics about body image insecurities and unspoken truths in past relationships. The ensemble's contributions—featuring violin, viola, cello, clarinet, flute, and trumpet—infuse the pop framework with classical depth, resulting in a hybrid sound that feels both accessible and sophisticated. All songs were co-written and co-arranged by Folds and yMusic, emphasizing collaborative orchestration from the outset.[2][26][27] Key elements include the songs' concise format, averaging around four minutes each, which maintains a tight, song-oriented flow without extraneous solos. Notably, there are no guest vocalists, keeping the focus squarely on Folds' delivery and yMusic's accompaniment. This sequence of tracks builds a conceptual arc, progressing from personal, confessional vignettes to broader emotional expanses, culminating in a seamless transition to the album's piano concerto for a shift from intimate chamber settings to epic orchestral scope.[28]Piano concerto structure
The piano concerto featured on So There, titled "Concerto for Piano and Orchestra," comprises three movements that form the album's ambitious instrumental climax, blending Ben Folds' pop-rock sensibilities with classical structures and orchestration performed by the Nashville Symphony under conductor Giancarlo Guerrero.[2] Co-commissioned by the Nashville Ballet and the Minnesota Orchestra, the work draws on influences from 20th-century American composers such as George Gershwin and Aaron Copland, incorporating dexterous piano runs, pop harmonies, and occasional dissonant or arrhythmic elements reminiscent of Folds' earlier band work.[2] This 20-minute piece elevates the album's scope, marking Folds' evolution toward classical crossover composition while maintaining rhythmic vitality and emotional narrative.[6] The first movement (10:28) launches with fast-paced, virtuosic piano lines that drive the energy, supported by swelling orchestral textures that build dramatic tension and release.[26] It introduces thematic material before developing contrasts between soloist and ensemble, highlighting Folds' command of both technical flair and harmonic interplay.[16] In contrast, the second movement (5:45) shifts to a slow, melodic interlude, emphasizing introspective piano solos that convey emotional depth through lyrical phrasing and subtle orchestral accompaniment.[2] This central section provides a contemplative respite, allowing the piano to explore tender, evocative lines amid restrained string and woodwind support, evoking a sense of vulnerability central to Folds' songwriting roots. The third movement (4:31) serves as an energetic finale, characterized by rhythmic interplay between the piano and orchestra, culminating in a vibrant resolution that ties the concerto's themes together.[26] With propulsive tempos and dynamic exchanges, it propels the work to a triumphant close, underscoring the concerto's role as the album's pinnacle of ambition and Folds' seamless bridge from rock piano to orchestral innovation.[6]Release and promotion
Album formats and singles
So There was released on September 11, 2015, by New West Records in multiple formats, including a standard compact disc edition, a gatefold double LP pressed on 180-gram vinyl with a digital download code, and digital download availability through major platforms.[29][1][30] A limited deluxe edition expanded on these offerings, bundling the double LP with a hi-resolution DVD containing 24/96 audio of the full album, a hand-autographed 12x12 insert, and two archival photographs from Ben Folds' personal collection; this version emphasized the album's closing piano concerto, recorded with the Nashville Symphony Orchestra under conductor Giancarlo Guerrero.[31][2] The lead single, "Phone in a Pool" (featuring yMusic), preceded the album's release in July 2015, debuting on platforms like Stereogum on July 16. It achieved a peak position of number 28 on the Billboard Adult Alternative Songs chart later that year. No additional tracks from So There were issued as official singles, although "Capable of Anything" garnered promotional airplay on adult alternative radio stations.[7]Marketing and tour
To generate pre-release buzz for So There, Ben Folds shared videos of his Concerto for Piano and Orchestra—a key component of the album—highlighting its premiere performances and studio recordings with the Nashville Symphony Orchestra.[32] These included excerpts from the first movement released in August 2015, showcasing the hybrid pop-classical style that defined the project. Additionally, Folds partnered with symphony orchestras for live hybrid events blending his chamber pop songs with orchestral arrangements, such as the December 2015 Declassified performance with the National Symphony Orchestra.[33] In September 2015, coinciding with the album's release, Folds made high-profile media appearances to promote its innovative fusion of genres. He joined a star-studded ensemble on The Late Show with Stephen Colbert's debut episode on September 8, performing Sly & the Family Stone's "Everyday People" alongside artists like Brittany Howard and Derek Trucks, which underscored his crossover appeal.[34] Earlier that month, NPR's All Songs Considered featured a review of So There on September 2 and an in-depth discussion on September 6, emphasizing the album's chamber ensemble tracks and concerto as a bold evolution in Folds' catalog.[2][10] The album's rollout included the 2015–2016 tour with yMusic, encompassing over 30 dates across the US and Europe, beginning with spring US shows in April and May 2015, followed by fall dates and a European leg including London's Royal Opera House in August.[35][36][37] Setlists typically blended So There tracks like "Beautiful Mechanical," "Phone in a Pool," and "So There" with Ben Folds Five classics such as "Army" and "Brick," creating a dynamic mix of new material and fan favorites.[38][39] This tour extended into symphony collaborations through 2017, with Folds performing the concerto and select album songs alongside orchestras like the Boston Pops.[40] A notable tie-in event was the 2025 live album Ben Folds Live with the National Symphony Orchestra, released on July 4 and recorded at the Kennedy Center, featuring orchestral renditions of So There elements alongside Folds' broader repertoire to celebrate the project's enduring classical-pop legacy.[41][42]Reception and legacy
Critical reviews
Upon release, So There garnered mixed to positive reviews from music critics, earning an aggregate score of 66 out of 100 on Metacritic based on 13 reviews.[43] AllMusic rated it 4 out of 5 stars (80/100), commending the album's innovative blend of chamber pop songs and classical concerto elements that showcased Ben Folds' versatility.[44] Critics frequently praised the piano concerto for its accessibility and emotional depth. NPR encapsulated the project's boldness, calling it "a bold step into classical territory that feels both intimate and expansive," while highlighting Folds' fusion of pop and orchestral elements influenced by Gershwin and Copland.[2] However, some reviewers took issue with the album's pop components. Consequence of Sound described the release as "charming and a little silly," noting Folds' orchestral collaboration while critiquing occasional formulaic elements.[45] The concerto's length—spanning 21 minutes across three movements—proved divisive, with The A.V. Club praising the seamless integration of yMusic's arrangements in the chamber-rock songs but arguing the concerto felt like an afterthought at the album's end, disrupting pacing.[46] Overall, the album was seen as an experimental success in concept, if not always in balance, reflecting Folds' evolution toward more ambitious compositions.Commercial performance and impact
Upon its release in September 2015, So There achieved significant success in classical crossover categories, debuting at number one on both the Billboard Classical Albums and Classical Crossover Albums charts.[47][48] In the general market, the album peaked at number 44 on the US Billboard 200 and number 63 on the UK Albums Chart, reflecting its niche appeal beyond mainstream pop.[49] The album sold approximately 20,000 copies in the United States during its first week, contributing to an estimated global total exceeding 100,000 units by 2016. In the 2020s, So There experienced a resurgence through streaming platforms, with tracks like the title song and "Capable of Anything" accumulating millions of plays on Spotify, broadening its reach to younger audiences.[28] The collaboration on So There marked a pivotal moment in Ben Folds' orchestral career, solidifying his transition toward symphony performances and inspiring subsequent projects, including a 2025 live album, Ben Folds Live with the National Symphony Orchestra, which features orchestral arrangements of the album's piano concerto.[50][41] It also elevated yMusic's profile in pop circles, leading to increased visibility for the ensemble in crossover recordings and tours. While the album received no major awards, it earned acclaim for its genre fusion. As of 2025, selections from So There remain staples in Folds' symphony residencies, such as his ongoing tours with orchestras like the National Symphony Orchestra, where the piano concerto is frequently performed.[51] Limited vinyl reissues of the album have been made available for its tenth anniversary, maintaining collector interest through specialty retailers.[52]Track listing and credits
Track listing
The album So There features eleven tracks, with the first eight comprising a chamber pop suite performed with yMusic, seamlessly leading into a three-movement piano concerto recorded with the Nashville Symphony Orchestra. All songs and concerto movements were written by Ben Folds.[53][54]| No. | Title | Writer(s) | Length |
|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | "Capable of Anything" (featuring yMusic) | Ben Folds | 3:50 |
| 2 | "Not a Fan" (featuring yMusic) | Ben Folds | 3:33 |
| 3 | "So There" (featuring yMusic) | Ben Folds | 4:19 |
| 4 | "Long Way to Go" (featuring yMusic) | Ben Folds | 4:42 |
| 5 | "Phone in a Pool" (featuring yMusic) | Ben Folds | 4:03 |
| 6 | "Yes Man" (featuring yMusic) | Ben Folds | 3:58 |
| 7 | "F10-D-A" (featuring yMusic) | Ben Folds | 1:59 |
| 8 | "I'm Not the Man" (featuring yMusic) | Ben Folds | 4:36 |
| 9 | "Concerto for Piano and Orchestra, Movement 1" | Ben Folds | 10:28 |
| 10 | "Concerto for Piano and Orchestra, Movement 2" | Ben Folds | 5:45 |
| 11 | "Concerto for Piano and Orchestra, Movement 3" | Ben Folds | 4:31 |